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PO: Have you ever faced a situation where
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My Mom died at about the same time and I was
a campaign did not go as planned, results were free to split my time in this lovely place.
evidently negative, and payment completion
either did not happen because the customer PO: Do you actually have a “mainstream
was unsatisfied or because YOU weren’t? side” you’d prefer not to have associated with
adult that you’re not telling us about?
BF: I’ve not been paid before. It happens
to us all. I’ve put safety valves in place so it BF: Oh not at all. I have a website broker
doesn’t happen again. I remember one large site for mainstream. I just haven’t gotten
dating network where the client just couldn’t around to promoting it yet. It’s WebsiteBroker.
get his own act together. Of course I got co I’d like to get it going sooner than later. I
blamed. I need cooperation. I can’t do it on my may as well do the same kind of work.
own.
I also have a number of mainstream
projects I’m toying with. I buy domains all the
PO: Where were you or what were you
before getting into adult? Was it a conscious time and then go, “Naw, that won’t work.” But
choice or a drift, a gradual transition? I do have some projects I will be launching on
this side of the water shortly.
BF: Funny enough on my early trips to
PO: As much as I’m sure you like the
Thailand I used to take pictures. The guys at “remote working” part of your work, do you
the gym and other friends approved. They miss those bursts of live social networking and
encouraged me to start a site. Thus my Asian schmoozing we call conventions (remember
site was born (they say do what you love). I had those)?
that a couple years and sold it. Then started
Adult B2B. BF: I miss them like crazy. I love the shows
to death and the people who go to them.
PO: You obviously have stayed in adult Hopefully they’ll be back in October with TES
because you love (and, yes, are loved by) the and maybe January as well. I made it to XBiz
community; but if you’d had your druthers LA last year for the first time and loved it. It
would you have gone or stayed in mainstream? was fun to hang in Hollyweird for a week. Went
to the beach for a few days after that between
BF: No. I was in radio for 21 years at the shows and then it was off to Vegas. The shows
same radio station. Although I loved radio I in Vegas were good too.
grew to hate the job. Made a ton of money. I
was very good at sales. But it got really old. PO: Internext or CES? I remember those
overlap days when we, the bermuda-shorts
I appreciate what you say about the crowd, would suddenly be woven-through with
community. That’s partially true. Some love suits & ties in the halls and even around the
me. Some don’t. But I love the business and poolside bars.
the people in it (most of them anyway, just
about all). Even when I can’t do business with BF: Before this year I had only been to
someone I don’t judge them as a person. I think Internext and AEE once, my first year in the
our adult community is a family. That’s one industry back in the dark ages. I never attended
of the things that makes this virus so tragic. CES. But I do remember those Japanese
I miss our regular family reunions and hugs. I getting whiplash when the porn stars would
hope we can have those again. I’m a hugger. walk by in various states of undress. Hilarious!
PO: NOT knowing what you do now, back PO: Well thanks for your time Bruce, let’s
then, would you have followed the money, as it hope to meet again on the tradeshow circuit
were, into a mainstream career? soon.
BF: Thanks Greg. That was fun.
BF: That’s hard to say really. I had one. I had
a mainstream ad agency in the San Francisco
area and we did well. But as soon as I decided
I wanted to live in Thailand that went out the
window. My business partner bought me out.