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lust really. I made some trips out to Thailand   and project management. We try to keep
        and had way too much fun. A couple of years   people from making bad decisions, the kind I
        after my first trip to Bangkok I purchased a   made when I got started and trust me, I made
        condo right in the middle of town. I was livin’   many.
        the life! I was splitting my time between the
        Bay Area and Bangkok. Winters in Thailand   PO:  As  a  site  broker, do you find  the  job
        and springs and summers in the states. It was   easier or simply different because you have
        really nice. But expensive.          more of a “tangible” to work with, as opposed
                                             to the more ephemeral, intangible marketing
           PO: Considering the legal status of online   consultation “product”?
        porn being a grey area in your area, did owning
        & operating a business called AdultB2B ever
                                               BF:  Quite frankly there is a general
        present any problems?
                                             ignorance to what  marketing  is and what it
                                             is supposed to do, in addition to how much
           BF: No not at all. First of all, I am registered
        as retired. I am on a retirement visa and I do   people need it. That’s one of the reasons I
        no work in Thailand technically. And I sure as   have spent more on website and company
        hell don’t go around and advertise what I do   brokering. Plus it’s a lot more profitable for my
        here. And since I don’t produce adult content   time spent.
        I’m really not breaking any laws I know of.
                                               I have no patience anymore for people who
           PO:  In this time of Coronavirus, it’s   don’t think they need marketing. When I look
        understandable that cam sites are just getting   around at these shows and online and see
        hotter, consumer market-wise, but dating sites   example after example of horrible marketing I
        are also somehow hot properties... what’s your   just shake my head. That’s why I started the
        social distancing take on that? (Are dating site   business in the first place. But in some ways
        owners dropping their properties before they   I’ve given up. Many people are just lost causes.
        take a loss? What kind of market is it? Are the   Not all, but many.
        offers high because of the demand or vice
        versa... etc.?)                        PO:  Past or present, how much of the
                                             marketing  services  make  up  your  personal
           BF: Unfortunately no, lol I wish they would.   work load, or do you have staff/team perform
        Dating sites sell like hotcakes. We can sell any   those campaign efforts for you?
        profitable dating site or network we can get
        our hands on.                          BF: Marketing and general consulting about
                                             20%. Website brokering 80%. Fish where the
           PO:  Your emphasis is now on brokering   fish are biting I always say.
        adult sites, so have you simply stopped
        marketing your marketing services? Are you at   PO:  What were your longest campaign
        a saturation point at that level, and are simply   strategies? Shortest? Most rewarding? Of
        maintaining a current base?
                                             which you are proudest?
           BF: No. I never stop doing anything Greg.
        You should know me better than that :)  I still   BF:  I remember one cam site where we
        have marketing clients, but I’m a lot more   tripled their business in 6 months. A network
        selective now as to who I take. I either work   of paysites where they went from losing money
        with larger companies or small companies   to making a million dollars in a year. Those are
        who I believe in who can really use our help.   just a couple.
        But I hand pick who we work with.
                                               PO:  Do you prefer the longer-term, pre-
           We also have Adult Business Consulting,   planned chess game type of strategies, or the
        where we primarily work with startups and   shorter checkers game campaigns that give a
        people wanting to get into the business. That’s   more immediate return/satisfaction for you or
        a lot of fun. It gives me a chance to give back,   your client?
        helping people who need the help. I could have
        used somebody like me when I got started.   BF: I love marketing. But website brokering
        That primarily consists of general consulting   pays the bills.


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